Further Thoughts On The New Inventory Proposal

I’m relieved to see that 89% of the game’s userbase is okay with the skirt-based inventory that I proposed. Unfortunately, the other 11% have been very vocal in their disapproval of it. I don’t want to fill up this blog with posts about the subject, but I do want to clarify a few things about the matter.

My intention with the skirt-based inventory was not to be controversial just for the sake of having shock value, or be lewd just for the sake of fanservice, or be “random” just for the sake of humor. My goal was to invoke the idea that Yandere-chan has a “Coat Full of Contraband” around her hips.

When I said that the inspiration for this feature was Resident Evil 4, I meant it. I wasn’t just thinking about the grid-based inventory, but I was also thinking specifically about this character from the game:

I was trying to portray Yandere-chan as being shady and sneaky, like a back-alley salesman with a coat full of stolen watches. As an added bonus, the exposed panties were perfectly consistent with the game’s visual themes, since multiple gameplay mechanics involve panties, and the game often utilizes anime tropes. This is why I felt – and still feel – that a skirt-based inventory makes the most sense out of all possible options.

Now, with all of that said, there is one thing that bothers me about the inventory I’ve proposed…the grids are separated. I would much rather have one continuous grid; it would be way easier to program, and way easier for the player to use.

I had an idea. What if Yandere-chan was wearing two skirts? That way, she could have one continuous “grid” instead of two separate grids.

(The above concept art represents the idea of wearing two skirts; it does not represent the actual appearance of the final inventory. The final inventory would have “generic” slots instead of 4 slots specifically for weapons, 4 slots specifically for rectangular objects, etc. Or, the final inventory might just use tape instead of pockets and Velcro straps.)

This solves the problem of having two separate grids, does a better job of depicting the character as a someone with a “coat full of contraband”, and may also appease the 11% of the fanbase who were uncomfortable with the previous inventory system.

Now, before I move on, let’s get one thing straight: I don’t intend to make a habit of appeasing people who are whining because that they think something is offensive. In this case, turning two grids into one continuous grid had the side effect of covering up the panties that were making some people feel uncomfortable.

  • Burning someone alive: OK!
  • Crushing someone’s skull: OK!
  • Stabbing someone to death: OK!
  • Pushing someone off a roof: OK!
  • Poisoning someone’s lunch: OK!
  • Framing someone for murder: OK!
  • Drowning someone in a toilet: OK!
  • Sabotaging someone’s love life: OK!
  • Electrocuting someone to death: OK!
  • Kidnapping, torture, mind-breaking: OK!
  • Seeing panties: Whoa! This is gross! I can’t support this game anymore!

I asked people to give me their feedback, and I got it. Many people had sensible, level-headed criticism that made perfect sense to me, and I even found myself agreeing with them. But some people were way more offended than I ever expected. If the prospect of panties on the inventory screen made you totally flip out, then it may actually be good idea for you to simply stop following the game’s development. It’s only going to get more and more deranged from here on out.

That inventory is too big! She can carry too much stuff! The game will be too easy!

The size of the inventory will be adjusted if it’s making the game too easy or too difficult.

Where would Yandere-chan get a custom skirt like that?

Her mother, who created the skirt herself in April of 1989.

Yandere-chan’s mother tried to give this skirt to her daughter last year, but Yandere-chan declined, seeing no use for it. After meeting Senpai, Yandere-chan suddenly imagined many uses for this skirt, so she began wearing it starting on the first day that the player gains control of the character.

That inventory is unrealistic, because…

Whoa, hold on. You didn’t actually expect to see a realistic inventory in a video game, did you? Inventories in video games are always unrealistic. If you try to reconcile how video game characters manage to carry around dozens of separate objects, you’ll go insane. Just look at all the stuff that Link is able to carry!

The purpose of the grid-based inventory isn’t to provide a realistic explanation for how Yandere-chan can carry everything she has; it’s to provide the player with a clear view of what they are currently carrying, and increase difficulty by placing limits on how many items the player can carry at one time.

Okay, with all of that said, let’s try another poll…

http://poal.me/c4j2nm

EDIT: Here is a screenshot of what the results of the poll looked like on June 26th 2016:

By the way, there is something worth mentioning: For the sake of a debug build, the only kind of inventory we need is a “functional” inventory. I will probably implement a ring-based inventory for the debug build, and won’t make any decisions regarding a grid-based inventory until at least 6 months from now, once I have taken care of other, higher-priority features.

604 thoughts on “Further Thoughts On The New Inventory Proposal

  1. Games
    are
    never
    ever
    ever
    realistic
    Take a example of Assassins Creed, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil or like EVERY game in the world.
    The game WILL have panties
    The game WILL have lgbt caracters
    YandereDev is nice and everything but i’m pretty sure that he will not listen anymore sexism, racist and lgbtfobe,

  2. You… really need to dial back on all the panty controversy and go back to what you originally proposed, because you’re really making yourself look bad by responding this drastically to something that isn’t even affecting your game’s development in the slightest. Sure, one or two people will jump ship, but are any of your volunteers voicing any concerns? Are any law enforcement agencies calling you? Are you getting email spam from people over this? (Okay, you are, but that’s normal.) If you just give your game’s development to whoever screams the loudest your going to end up releasing a mainstream, pandering lump of things everyone’s seen before. No matter what content your creating, be it a TV show, movie, book, or game, you can’t just give people what they expect, otherwise people won’t remember what you did down the road.

  3. I think most of the fanbase is with you here on this one, Alex. I know kids less than ten years old who have been following the development of this game, and maybe some of the people who disapprove are kids. This is my explanation. So kids like that are exposed to more violence than, well, girl’s underwear. When they see drowning, burning, or other brutal means of elimination, they’re like “cool!” But once the panty situation comes up, they’re unsure. This may or may not be right! If you’re a kid who approves of this, cool! But why you here though…? Lol- thanks for working on this game for us, Yandere Dev. Peace

  4. So I have a problem in this build. When the school day starts its all normal and the Frame rate is fine. Then when the students start entering it drops continuously to a 3. This never happened before? Its so bad that its impossible to play the game.

  5. So, now that we know that there are 21% of us that want the panties back and that, according to generally accepted numerical progression, 21 is more than eleven. Are you going back to the original design with panty flashing?
    Also, you might want to consider doing something like this instead:
    http://i.imgur.com/e1Pnlbd.png (I’m awful at drawing, sorry!)
    The idea here would be to get Yandere-chan to wear a belt under her skirt, the belt would have two hook up points to attach the skirt, one fixed and another one that can be quickly detached; that would allow her to easily unwrap the skirt to one side (ideally the left) so that she can hold it open with one hand, grab whatever she wants with the other hand (the right) and just wrap the skirt around her again to close it. Since the fixed hook of the skirt is before the detachable one the skirt ends would overlap and fully close. The motion would go something like this:
    -Reaches to the left side of her lower back with her right hand
    -Unwraps the skirt in a circular motion (counterclockwise from a 8 o clock position)
    -Reach to the front (12 o clock position) and swap hands
    -Now holding the skirt end with the left hand, fully extend it to get access to the inventory with her right hand free to reach up and grab whatever she needs
    Maybe opening the inventory would require being alone which can work as a gameplay element if done correctly. This would also give you a simple straight menu for you to code (which was another part of the issue, right?). You could offer the option to have another layer of skirt at the front that would cover up her panties, that shouldn’t be complicated to do and it would make perfect sense.

    I know I’m a bit late to the party with the suggestions, but please consider it.
    Regards!
    And sorry for my bad english :S.

  6. Now I’m torn because on one hand, I’m a pervert and unashamed of it (plus, your passionate text in the previous entry makes me cheer for you to follow your artistic vision despite what anyone tells you), but on the other hand, objectively ,the continuous grid IS a pretty good idea rather than having them separated. However, that much inventory space on the get-go seems slightly… Unbalanced, I think? After all, if the goal is to make the player be smart in eliminating rivals – violently or otherwise – having that much space for carrying weapons and other items seems to make things too easy.

    MAYBE the custom skirt could be an upgrade you acquire? Hypotheticaly: joining the Sewing Club would allow you to modify the skirt to become like in the concept art and having a bigger inventory. Or something like that.

    Bonus: on the risk of reviving a dead topic, I feel that you shouldn’t trash completely the Yakuza-inspired method to deal with the loan shark quest (or whatever else you have in store for later). I mean, it WAS part of your vision, afterall. On the bare minimum, read it with a grain of salt: if Budo GUARANTEES “that you’ll be able to defend yourself from anyone that might try to hurt you”, and the bonus for joinng the club IS being able to overpower teachers (at least as planned at the moment), it shouldn’t rule out dealing with thugs. Of course, whatever the loan shark has as henchmen, they are way stronger than a school teacher, but as any martial arts master will teach you, it’s not all about strenght in a fight; you CAN defeat a larger opponent by using their own strenght against themselves.

    Anyways, even if that topic is dead for good (I wrote it because I couldn’t comment at the time that feature was proposed…), I trust that Yanderedev will end up making even better things instead.

  7. I hope he doesn’t worry too much about th inventory. You got it to 11% that don’t want it. That’s better than the previous number. It’s getting tiring after seeing this being discussed in three posts. Who are these people that are making such a big deal anyway? It must be really small for me to not notice it. The only complaint I saw was one person who said Yanderedev was being insulting to the fans who he is compromising with. I don’t care just make the inventory already! >_<
    I do like the other skirt concept though too…..but I miss the panties….sigh….so difficult.

      • The new skirt doesn’t show panties so panties don’t win, 21% want the panties back and 11% are still against it for previously stated reasons.

      • Are you having a problem with maths?
        11% doesn’t want the panties
        21% wants the panties back
        21 is more than 11
        Panties win the poll.
        The dev originally wanted to have the panties
        Bring the panties back.
        #Wewantpanties
        (Am I doing that hashtag thing right?)

      • 77% of people are fine with the inventory that does NOT show panties. (The double skirt.) Panties do not win.

      • I’m really confused are you guys intentionally leaving out the 77% majority who is fine with the new design that doesn’t show panties?

      • You sure are retarded.
        The poll before this one had 11% that didn’t wanted the panties showing, that means 89% was ok with the panties. Following your logic “…are you guys intentionally leaving out the 89% majority who was fine with the old design that shows the panties?
        89 is more than 77, therefore panties should stay.
        Check and mate.

      • Why are you calling me retarded because I asked a question? I wasn’t referring to any previous polls, I was only using this poll. 77% have no problem with the new design which doesn’t include panties, 21% want the panties back, and 3% have a problem with the skirt inventory in it’s entirety.

      • If people changed their mind about the old design and are now in favor of the new design then the previous polls hold no value. If the people who liked the old design voted on this poll they would’ve voted to bring back the panties. Most likely they changed their minds in favor of this new design. So regardless of previous polls, this new poll shows that people like the new design the most.

      • I’m calling you a retard based on an observation of your apparent your cognitive skills. If one poll gives out that only 11% is against the panties showing, that leaves you with 89% that is ok with the panties, if a poll done immediately after is shaping up to have between 77 and 81 (in the case you consider that 3% as partial approval which is unlikely, but let’s give you that) you still have less acceptance than the -original- panty showing approach.
        You can’t ignore information because it doesn’t match your opinion, that’s what a retard does.

      • What? All I’m saying is that data was collected before this design was released. Thus people must’ve changed their opinion and like this new design which doesn’t show panties more than the one that does show panties. I’m saying based on this poll alone that people prefer the new design which doesn’t show panties.

      • That’s where you’re wrong.
        “having no objections” doesn’t equate “I like this design better”. Those are just the people that feel the design is fine regardless or that they want to move on already (as many have said on the comments here, you can read it). Not everyone has strong opinions about the matter, as a matter of fact, the majority was ok with either system; panties had 89% being ok with it (that includes the people that specifically like the panties showing and those who fall in the “no strong opinion/let’s move on” crowd). The sides that are opposed here and what this polls aim to reveal are those who have strong opinions and will make a problem over this: Panty lovers and panty haters. The later is only 11%, while the former is 21%.

  8. I was one of the 11% on the last poll and I have to say this seems like a really solid solution! With the previous design, regardless of intentions, it really felt like it was purely trying to go for shock value to the detriment of actual game design. This design completely fixes that problem. With the previous designs, it wasn’t clear at all that you were going for a ‘shady back alley dealer opening their trenchcoat’ kind of feel, but with this design I get that feeling immediately. It feels like a very clever twist on that trope that fits way more in line with this game as it fits Yan-chan’s ‘innocent schoolgirl with much darker intentions’ aesthetic instead of just feeling like another ‘opportunity’ for the player to see her half naked.

    I argued on the last post that showing the panties on the inventory screen didn’t feel unique, it just felt like it belonged in an ecchi game and seriously undersells the integrity of the game. With panty shots and choosing stat-boosting panties each day, it’s clear that these are clever reworkings of generic game constructs like currency and stat-boosting armour that fit in line with this type of game. The previous inventory showing panties didn’t feel like a clever reworking of an inventory system, it just felt like an excuse to show more panties, which shouldn’t be the main selling point if the audience are meant to take this as a serious stealth game. Now, by presenting the skirt as a reinvention of the ‘coat full of contraband’ trope, it feels much more like a clever reworking at the same high standard as all the other well thought out reworkings in the game.

    I do have to commend you yanderedev for coming up with a much more creative solution!

    • No, this design looks stupid, she would look as if she was wearing a giant diaper under her skirt, it makes no sense. This isn’t a serious stealth game, you’re forcing your idea into the game instead of appreciating the product the artist is making. There is nothing ecchi about panties, maybe you come from some crazy religious family or something.
      The solution is to have the panties covered with an option and unwrapping a single layer to the side.

      • I disagree! It looks like she’s wearing a custom made skirt designed to store weapons which fits Yan-chan’s character completely and informs the player just how prepared she is to eliminate her rivals for Senpai. Every piece of game design should be in line with the character’s personality and give the audience another facet of their character. Yandere Simulator so far has been excellent for using staple game mechanics and customising and reworking them to fit this game’s aesthetic and tell you more about the characters, which is way more interesting and creative than just going with a bit of fanservice that doesn’t fit Yan-chan’s personality nearly as much like the panty inventory would have done. Plus yanderedev went to the effort of giving an entire backstory for the skirt which again enriches the game and makes a lot more sense than a lot of the other kinds of inventories suggested throughout these posts.

        Yanderedev has said in the past that he wants people to take this game as a serious stealth game, like I’m just quoting him on that ahaha :’) He mentioned this when considering changing the game’s name to something more serious-sounding and with the whole Yakuza mess he said he was happy to hear the fanbase were taking the game and its design very seriously. Plus this is the solution yanderedev has come up with and is happy with, like?? If anyone’s trying to force their idea into the game hon it’s you uo~ like you’ve already drawn your own diagram apparently and are trying to get yanderedev to notice it and incorporate it, like?? Why are you telling me I’m forcing my vision into the game, I’m laughing :’)

        You must be able to see the argument that having the young student protagonist open her skirt and show off her panties in the middle of the screen with no actual game function even though it would be more difficult to code and more difficult to navigate for the player (yanderedev’s words!!) and wouldn’t be in line with her personality or tell us anything more about her character but instead would just be for the player’s “enjoyment”(???) feels like it belongs in an ecchi game, like c’mon. I’m really curious why people are so desperate to get the panties back at this point? Aren’t there enough panties in this game to get your rocks off, like where’s the actual benefit for yous?

        Again, yanderedev has provided a solution already. It’s a pretty done deal at this point!

      • Honestly it just didn’t make sense. For one thing, it has been established that she has to burn her skirt often, so unless she has an endless supply of special skirts, that wouldn’t work. This new design is much more consistent with the game’s ESTABLISHED lore. As for it being serious, Yandere dev has REPEATEDLY said he WANTS this to be somewhat serious, that’s not us. Finally, I hardly think it’s forcing an idea on him when he literally ASKED us for feedback.

  9. Oh well, I don’t really like grid based inventories overall, but I guess I’m a minority. they just feel a bit tedious. I don’t care about the panties at all, in fact I think it is kind of a cool idea. However, showing the panties isn’t a good way to get off the Twitch ban list, and I think a lot of people who were against the idea just wanted to protect the game from further censorship and media harassment. But hey, thats just my two cents. It’s not like something as insignificant as the inventory could ruin such a cool game.

    • If you’re worried about the twitch ban let’s ask him to remove underskirt photos too. I’m sure twitch would end up finding something else to bitch about, so let’s remove that too.
      You don’t fight censorship and media harassment by bending over to their will, you stand by your product, some other streaming site will let you show it, some other gaming media outlet will give your game positive attention.

      • That’s not what I think. I am actually quite against media censorship, thats just what i feel others were thinking based on a lot of the comments.

  10. Honestly, I believe the best option WAS the panties censored by item description choice.

    I get why to have a skirt inventory; its silly, and if the character is seen reaching for shit on a backpocket they dont have, the items are CLEARLY coming from somewhere there, like a hidden backpocket, or skirt sidepocket. I believe the double-skirt solution removes the outrageous silly tone slice of what you were going for with the skirt inventory in the first place; and adds a senseless contrivance to be explained in-story.

    Yes, because just carrying a butcher knife inside your skirt as a gameplay element is LESS contrived. If you need an in-world reason to hide pantyshots, have her wear the PE uniform underneath or something, its not like she isnt involved in massive amounts of cardio all the time anyway.

  11. Honestly, I dislike the double skirt. I’d rather have the black outline instead out a weird, thick, double skirt. That way it’d be censored. The double skirt could be an upgrade if you desperately want it.
    “What if she’s wearing pants or something else?!” It’s just an inventory system. If you want realism, she’d be taking it out of her pockets or something. Like honestly, the double skirt doesn’t look visually appealing. You already have to take panty shots. I don’t think a black outline would be “OMGZ!!!111 DISGUSTIGN!!1111!!!”
    Besides, it’s stated that all characters are 18 and older. I think a black outline would be fine. Period.

    • Oop I forgot. Covering the panties up with the description was also a good idea. Or as the comment above said, she could wear the PE bottoms underneath or something. Like, honestly.

      • Well, what about panties with different stats like the dev wanted? PE bottoms underneath sounds like something taken out of a censored games from the 90s, I really don’t want to go back to that.
        Just offer the option to have panty area covered by a second layer of skirt, it is just a model swap that could be chose from the option menu, it shouldn’t be that hard to program. My idea for the opening system of the skirt (explanation in one of my previous comments) would also let him have a single row of items for the inventory.

  12. ok look before you jump and try to bite my head off here, just hear me out: this was a necessary change, as showing yandere-chan’s underwear on screen constantly is a gross concept. here is why:

    – taking panty shots doesn’t bother me, because the girls that we are taking panty shots of are our “targets”. yandere-chan essentially views them only as obstacles in her way to senpai. by taking panty shots of them, we are reinforcing their idea as a target, an animal, nothing. we use them to suit our needs, and if we need pictures of their underwear, that’s what they provide.
    – yandere-chan is strong and we are meant to see her as something unshakable in her quest to get senpai. we are her, essentially, as we play as her, and therefore, we’re lowering the viewers perception of her down to the same sort of target like state of the rest of the human body. tbh i think itd be better if we never saw any flash of undies even once, as it further distinguishes yan from her peers

    tdlr: yandere chan is a hunter, the rest of the students are her prey. showing her underwear constantly blurs this divide.

    one more thing- ppl think murder and mind breaking is ok in games bc its generally accepted that these things are bad. ppl are less ok w panty showing bc a lot of ppl still think that taking creep pics is ok

    • 1) I’m going to bite your head off If I feel like.
      2) “Muh feels!!” is not an argument. Following your totally stupid logic I could come up with this argument “Yandere-chan will do anything to fufil her goal, that includes leaving any prudishness she might have and do the unthinkable just to take down whomever stands between her and senpai”
      3) The dev vision is far more important than your opinion. He envisioned the game with panty shots, probably before you were even following the project (probably since the game didn’t have a lot of followers back then, I’m not judging you, just stating and statistical observation based on probability). You don’t walk into a porn shop and start complaining about the dildos hanging on the walls. What kind of entitlement makes you think the game should change in spite of the vision the dev had to fit your preferences? Are you a millennial by chance?

      “tdlr: yandere chan is a hunter, the rest of the students are her prey. showing her underwear constantly blurs this divide.”
      Are you saying that showing your panties is a sign of weakness? What kind of crazy religious cunt raise you?

      “ppl are less ok w panty showing bc a lot of ppl still think that taking creep pics is ok”
      You’re pulling off some nice mental gimnastics right here. There is a double standard on your narrative, you don’t have a solid argument against panties showing, just your personal preference. It would be better to be honest about it rather than trying to make up some weak excuse.

      • -“I’m going to bite your head off If I feel like.” ……. dont be a child, cmon.
        -“Yandere-chan will do anything to fufil her goal, that includes leaving any prudishness she might have and do the unthinkable just to take down whomever stands between her and senpai” this sentence structure doesnt make sense. what are you trying to say?
        -“The dev vision is far more important than your opinion. He envisioned the game with panty shots, probably before you were even following the project (probably since the game didn’t have a lot of followers back then, I’m not judging you, just stating and statistical observation based on probability).” ive been following this game since a few months after this wordpress was made lol. and im not trying to argue against panty shots
        -“Are you saying that showing your panties is a sign of weakness? What kind of crazy religious cunt raise you?”dude, she’s not willingly showing her underwear. you know that. she isnt like raising her skirt to the viewer, just like how when her skirt flaps up when she runs, its not bc she’s showing it off, either.
        -“You’re pulling off some nice mental gimnastics right here. There is a double standard on your narrative, you don’t have a solid argument against panties showing, just your personal preference. It would be better to be honest about it rather than trying to make up some weak excuse.” its not tho??? ppl agree murder is bad and no one should imitate it in real life. thats why its in video games as a mechanic. bc ppl know to not actually kill. on the other hand, if you played as a rapist and your goal was to rape a bunch of ppl, that wouldnt be received well, right?? bc ppl still make rape into a joke when ppl are raped literally every single day and its very uncommon that action is taken against it.

        look, you’ve been commenting on every damn comment here that disagrees with yandevs original vision. you dont need to input your opinion and argue with everything bc things arent going to change if you just try to pick fights w commenters who want to share their opinions. you argue that ppl are just being too sensitive and all that bs when you cant even handle leaving a single comment who disagrees w you untouched. just stop. let yandev handle this, and for the love of god, just leave ppl who are trying to share their input- when it is SPECIFICALLY requested for of them- alone

      • “dont be a child, cmon.”
        Don’t be a whiny, cmon.

        “this sentence structure doesnt make sense. what are you trying to say?”
        Sorry, English isn’t my main language, I sometimes screw up some sentences. I was trying to say (again, following your very weak logic) that you could easily justify having to open her skirt just to take out some tool to get something done for the sake of going after her goal (removing anyone that stands between her and senpai). She is a risk taker already, you will be killing and framing people, risking the embarrassment of being caught with her skirt open isn’t nearly as bad as that. Plus, the idea would that she is opening up the skirt when no one is looking. As I said on a previous comment, it should be pretty simple to get it covered or censored with a toggle-able option to swap the character model, I’m not a dev, but I have done some simple stuff with unity and that’s really not all that different from having different outfits (coding-wise).

        “ive been following this game since a few months after this wordpress was made lol. and im not trying to argue against panty shots”
        I was following the game since before that back in 8ch.

        “ppl agree murder is bad and no one should imitate it in real life. thats why its in video games as a mechanic. bc ppl know to not actually kill. on the other hand, if you played as a rapist and your goal was to rape a bunch of ppl, that wouldnt be received well, right?? bc ppl still make rape into a joke when ppl are raped literally every single day and its very uncommon that action is taken against it.”
        I really don’t know what the actual fuck does that has to do with anything, but rape is almost as bad as murder. It’s a game, it is fictional, people don’t get their moral construction and perception of reality from games, games don’t make people more violent nor they make them more sexist. Showing panties isn’t going to make anyone a pervert.

        “you dont need to input your opinion and argue with everything bc things arent going to change if you just try to pick fights w commenters who want to share their opinions. you argue that ppl are just being too sensitive and all that bs when you cant even handle leaving a single comment who disagrees w you untouched. just stop.”
        Some stupid faggot doesn’t get to tell me what to do. I will argue with whomever I want and I will make sure to give a voice to that 21% who wants the panties back. If you don’t want to reply back, be my guest. Freedom of speech is above your sensitivities.

        “let yandev handle this”
        Oh the irony!

        “just leave ppl who are trying to share their input- when it is SPECIFICALLY requested for of them- alone”
        If you put your comment on a public place, you’re exposing your opinion to people that might disagree. That’s how it works.

  13. The panties were never the problem for me. I think the updated inventory makes much more sense physically. I think it’s much cooler now and people could even cosplay it like this! (And if yanderedev changes the uniform to that new design then it would work even better!)

    • A cosplay of that with anything on the pockets would look as if the girl wearing it had diapers under the skirt. I wore school skirts for 12 years, you can’t wear too much stuff beneath a skirt because it starts to look bulky. I might or might not have hidden pieces of paper that could had some information relevant to some test… I also hide a ruler on one of the skirt folds and I’m pretty sure one could hide a pair of scissors or small enough tools if needed.

  14. Yandere Dev is focusing way too much on this. If he’s still concerned then he should go back to doing the rest of the stuff that’s needed for the game. The inventory screen can wait. I still like the game but he’s making a big deal out of this.

  15. i didnt really cared about the panties, i was just excited about the idea of having a inventory system similar to Resident Evil’s because it’s really fun and adds to the game. So that’s the only thing that matters to me. Though i actually can’t believe people find thisoffensive. What are you doing playing this kind of game then? It’s all about creeping on a guy who doesn’t know who we are and killing/kidnapping/stalking/torturing innocent school girls. How come everyone is okay with that but so many people find it gross that we can see the protagonist’s panties?
    I don’t really care how this ends up, i just want to have an interactive inventory.
    My only suggestion is to stop doing polls and do whatever you want, you are the dev, you are the one with the vision. Projects always have problems when you listen to the fans… don’t you remember the post you make about the OCs? This is the same.

  16. Yandere-dev Yandere-dev!
    If the police will find things in Yandere-chan will she get Arrested?
    Can the police do a look up on Yandere-chan so she has no wierd objects with her?
    And can we borrow to a “friend” the skirt and put a knife in the skirt and get her arrested by the police? Because girl borrow clothse frome each other.

    And one more thing, there is boys and girls in the school which is great but what is the point of the boya in the game?
    I mean except match making, the have to be more things thst the guys can do, no?

  17. The idea of Yandere-chan inheriting this skirt from her mother is pretty kickass (really digging that Yandere-chan comes from a long family line of other yanderes, by the way).

    The original idea with the panties were cool (I saw nothing wrong with it – in fact it’s pretty funny), but this isn’t bad either. It’s quite a shame you can’t please everyone, really. Never understood how some people are okay with all the killing and whatnot, but yet can’t take Yan-chan revealing her undergarments; it’s almost like every single anime out there has, at one point or another, had revealed a girl’s underwear.

    But yes, I like the under skirt idea, since it kinda adds to the stealthy-ness/originality to the game. I mean for fuck sakes, that’s what it is!

  18. How does the skirt work if you get it covered in blood? Does she have a supply of custom skirts that she has every time she gets blood on herself? And does the inventory system change if you change out of it?

  19. Okay now that you’ve explained it, I can defiantly see where you were going with the skirt inventory. I was never really offended more confused then anything and to the people who says it’s unrealistic here’s a little term for you it’s called Suspension of Disbelief which means

    ‘The term suspension of disbelief or willing suspension of disbelief has been defined as a willingness to suspend one’s critical faculties and believe the unbelievable; sacrifice of realism and logic for the sake of enjoyment.’

    Which means though the skirt inventory may not be realistic, we can choose to ignore that for the sake of game play

  20. The fact someone can be okay with this level of violence, but just ANYTHING sexual triggers them so badly… it really bugs me, and i feel people need to stop being so prudish with such a thing, when they are allready okay with extreme violence.

  21. I’m quite OK with the Grid system, because it’s quite more “realistic” than the other inventory systems I’ve ever saw (Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy series, Pokemon, and a few other that I forgot their names), plus it gives some kind of strategic gameplay, making the player decide what objects he/she should carry within the established space limits.
    Also the idea of carrying stuff with the skirt is quite interessing, also I love the backstory behind of the skirt. I wonder how many generations that skirt idea was useful for the Yandere-chan’s decendents? I’m pretty sure Yandere-chan and her mother weren’t the only ones who had that clever idea…

  22. Now here’s a question on the skirt inventory, and please let me know if it has been asked: Will she be wearing it on the first day of the game? I think the skirt’s basic origin story is perfect, but she isn’t expecting to meet the guy of her dreams on the first day. Will the first day she notices Senpai be some sort of cutscene, and the next day she wears her inventory skirt? The game starts on a random Monday near the beginning of the school year, so does she notice him on the Friday/weekend before, or is the first day a Tuesday, and you have four days to off your rival (being easier, since it’s the first rival?) Or does it start on a Monday, and you are randomly wearing the inventory skirt you told your mom you have no use for?

  23. I think the skirt idea is great! The story behind it too is interesting. The continuous grid that comes with it would be very useful, & probably easier to store certain items and move them around to fit better. Also, this will probably make it easier for a lot of YouTubers who have had to censor certain parts of their videos to avoid age restrictions.

  24. I personally think the panties being shown would be a good way to check which underwear you wore to school that day, so as to make sure you make the right decision on whether to befriend or murder someone, not just as a fan-service type deal.

  25. You fanbase have good suggestions, homewer anything you do, Yanderedev, won’t please everyone. Please, listen to your heart and do what you think is ideal for the game. It’s your game after all

  26. I think the skirt inventory with the grid is a good idea. If you want to make it all one box and still have enough space for everything I think a more one side trench coat thing would look better (https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/59936564/2dkUS.jpg). It’s not great but it gets the point a cross… I think having the skirt open from one side feels and looks better. It would also open up the idea of having an info screen on the other side of skirt for Item details.

    One other Inventory idea I had might add another level of tactics and forethought.
    What if Yandere-chan had the scroll well inventory where as you could only hold onto a few things (like 4 or 5 items) and her Locker had a larger grid like inventory space.
    I think something like this could work in the way that you can’t hold onto much but are able to store Items away in your locker that might be hard to get and/or are needed at a later time. This would make people have to really think and plan ahead as for what they need and when.

  27. Please give a moment to read over my comment, I have some things on my mind which I feel we as a community need to hear.
    Why is it that everyone is getting offended over the panties? This game already has many features which expose players to these sort of things. You can take pictures of girl’s panties. You put on different pairs of panties to get power ups. You can run around school naked!

    All of these things have been implemented in the past with no problem! No one complained, and the ones who were offended simply didn’t follow the game’s development in the first place. I think we need to go back to letting Yandere-Dev making more decisions. The COMMUNITY are going to be the ones to kill this game.

    The game has been going brilliantly up to this point, but it could be even better if the community didn’t keep standing in the way. Recently Yan-Dev suggested a beat-em-up style combat system. This feature had great potential, but was almost instantly shot down by the community. Keep in mind the game is going through DE-BUG BUILDS, IT ISN’T EVEN IN ALPHA YET! If the Dev adds anything into the game that doesn’t work or doesn’t fit in, IT CAN BE REMOVED NOW WITHOUT HINDERING THE QUALITY OF THE FINISHED GAME! Back to the skirt inventory system, the Dev even said for now he may just implement a scrolling inventory system for testing purposes, because, remember now, THE GAME IS STILL BEING DEVELOPED! Anything in the game now is temporary and can be changed and improved upon later.

    If we keep shooting down ideas for features which could intentionally improve the quality of the game, then we are essentially making the game quality lower. We will never find out if these features could make a good lasting impact or not if they are never even given the chance to be worked on!

    Everyone, with all this said, please keep in mind that we will never improve if we keep clinging on to what we are comfortable with. If we don’t ever try something new, if we don’t even push the boundaries of comfort, then we will just be stuck in the same old spot and use it up until it becomes dry and boring, and the game may crumble as a result of it.
    Thanks for reading, I hope my point got across to you, and may you remember to keep an open mind when coming across something which may not seem promising at the time.

    • Do you realize how quick it may be to make these suggestions? It’s not really hindering the progress of the game. YandereDev HIMSELF brought up great points against the panties, like how Youtube may not allow videos of the game since it has that, and how Steam may not sell the game. And we’re not exactly shooting down his idea, just suggesting new ideas or changes to it. I think you need to calm down a little and try to see the other side of the spectrum…

    • Yeah I agree plans need to have a chance to grow, but I don’t believe Yandere chan should expose herself to players because she belongs only to sempai. I’m still confused myself people didn’t like the beat um up style idea. You could do a lot with that. All the potential, snap mode, my god why is that not a good idea. I mean I understand Yandere chan could not possibly take down a gangster single handed with brute force frontal strength, they have guns and are trained fighters. But she could take down students and almost anyone with an advantage. So I also agree for both he should have probably implemented them first then went from there. Though I’ve also seen youtuber males get embarrassed slightly the first time playing because of all the panties and try to laugh off I’m not a perv. Then just play with all the Easter eggs every video. I’m a women so I have the equipment. I’ve also been watching anime for a long time. Don’t care if it’s other people but yandere Chan is different.

  28. Woah! I didn’t except Yandere-chan’s mom to make that skirt, it makes so much sense… BUT STILL i have the idea of the Sew Room, i don’t know, i would love to see more functions for the Sew Room, maybe you should at least give some info of all the rooms in school, if i was Yan-chan i would actually use the Sew Room for a lot of stuff more than modify a skirt, i would make a special jacket or something else, like, you can make the weeks on different seasons, so students change their uniforms or something like that, i dunno, i just have that idea and i think is cool. But still, you can keep making the game like this, i still love it and i’m really excited for the final results. Also, does Info-chan lives on the school? She never leaves that room and we never see her outside. Also, you can’t have a “Info Club” with only one person, i think in japanese schools, they need at least 5 people for making a club or they won’t alow it. But it’s alright, i like the idea of only one person in a club drinking tea while black mailing others :j

    • Info chan could blackmail 4 other members into joining and they could be trying to make news for info chan, getting pantie shots, bullying students, the possibilities. The fact info chan needs your help is because they are really bad at it. Info chan can lend them out to you. They could have a new personality. Look away from any miss deeds, or take pictures of the scene to give to Info chan.

  29. Honestly, when I proposed the idea of a double skirt (actually not if someone else said but I occurred to me that, just for the simple reason, that thought during the game would look like skirt was falling) also that my English is not perfect I could not read everything and understand it. But the idea itself and add more space for stuff is not bad in this way. And although it has to be realistic, it is within what we might call real and I like that.
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  30. actually its pretty interesting concept. i dont know why people are flipping out over seeing panties. yandere might be wearings spats as most of the high school girls will wear shorts underneath their skirt so its not something to flip over. but its so interesting i cant wait to see it implemented. hmmm makes me think about storing items in her bra. i mean, its another pocket no? 8’DDD i do see girls that do that when they need to hide their tampons. so maybe a specific item can be placed inside?

    • I actually have no problems with the panties or whatever you come up with. I love your game, all of your ideas and I will continue to play. I have plans on purchasing as soon as it is released. Thank you for all that you are doing! You’re amazing!

  31. I personally think that the pantys should not be shown.. I know the games involves Pantys but taking Panty shots and sending them to Info-chan is just a help to beat the game. It is possible to beat the game without taking Panty shots.
    But I don’t want to decide what you do with your game and everyone who doesn’t like it should just play other games..
    So even if your going to show the Pantys, I will keep following and supporting you. 😶

  32. There are a lot of girls in anime who hide weapons under their skirts, so this isn’t exactly revolutionary. However, I really do like the idea of a skirt-based inventory, and a grid based one would be even cooler!
    I think the only thing that could take the edge off o the awesomeness of this idea is the panties, which is why I support their removal.

  33. I don’t know why you’re so intent on adding the grid based inventory in this way. My main criticism of it really is one of logistics. This inventory would have to change depending on the outfit, which would be a lot of work depending on how many outfits Yan-chan can wear. Which leads me to the obvious solution – change the way it’s implemented from being a skirt to being a bag or more sensible holding space, so that skirtless outfits work with the system. As you’ve said, game inventories don’t need to be realistic – but the specific positioning of this system isn’t very authentic, it’s laughable and really kills the mood of the game. For some reason you’re clinging to this feature. I’d love to know why. You went on defending the panty shot system for literally ages saying they’re ‘optional’ and then undermine yourself and do something like this?

  34. LOVE the origanal idea!
    Screw what others think! The new concept looks waaay better then blacking it all out, but the double skirt? Seems a bit too much.

    Love the game! Great work!

  35. There’re a lot of people in the fanbase, different ages, culture, gender, mindset. No wonder that we don’t have unanimous decision, I’d say 11% is quite a small number in this case. In the end if Dev is satisfied with his decision, anything goes, right? It’s his game, and the obligation to make a good game is on him. I don’t know why Dev is so determined to get 100% support, United Kingdom decided to leave EU with only 52% votes.

  36. i’m just gonna leave a simple message for everyone because this is all getting very complex. if you’re offended, then why are you playing this damn game? The dev is trying his best to be reasonable, and he already tried to compromise with y’all, but so many people have to take it so damn seriously. I admit at first I didn’t like the concept, but It grew on me like that uniform model from some time ago. I think that the panty inventory is quite an innovative idea and the panties should be brought back. Although, if you want the double skirt grid, I am perfectly fine with that. Keep up the good work, dev!

  37. For some reason people that like the grid based inventory think that the other people that dont like that inventory dont like it because they think that they feel offended but I´ve never seen someone saying that they feel offended and i personaly dont like the skirt inventory sistem because it just doesnt feel right because tghis is supost to be kinda a stealth game where you are the monster and that inventory just makes me laught (one part because I may be a little bit preverted) and the fact that the game has other things that break its mood like taking panty shots or choosinhg panties for bonusesbut you dont really need to take panty shots because yandere-dev as said that you can beat the game without them and also probably be able to beat the game whithout panty bonuses the inventory would be a completly necessary (unless u beat the game by only gossiping or crushing)and it as other problems like the time it will take to develop beacause you have a ton of autfits whithout skirt (martial arts, art club, gym uniform, swim suit and probably more like the rain coat that will be on the final version of the game)that might delay final game release date.
    Btw sorry for the bad english

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